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Why does everybody want to become an engineer here?

Today's newspaper had an article about the booming IIT coaching industry in Kota, a small town in Rajasthan. The IIT entrace exam results were declared recently and that was as big a news item as the Left's opposition to the privatization of BHEL. And not without reason. Every year, over 30,000 aspirants move to Kota lock, stock and barrel to spend two years preparing for the IIT entrance exam. The coaching institutes apparently have tie-ups with local schools which take it easy on these kids. Having to go to school is actually considered a distraction! Similar coaching centers exist in all big cities of India as well. But for some reason, Kota has become like the mecca of IIT coaching and the number of pilgrims is increasing every year!

Almost 200,000 students sit for the actual exam and only 5000 get selected. It is interesting to note that 5000 undergraduate seats is a fairly large number for any educational institution (even if it is spread over 6 locations). So IITs are not so exclusive by choice. But in a country of 1 Billion, even the most abundant of resources can appear to be scarce.

Even though I am an IIT-ian myself, I feel sad that so much empahsis should be laid on an engineering degree in our country. Engineering is a very traditional profession. Even considered boring in the West. The mad rush to get into IITs is a reflection of our society's emphasis on taking the conservative, tried and tested path. If all the best and the brightest kids will become engineers, who will take the country forward in the fields of medicine, science, literature, and arts?

The high regard for engineers in India can perhaps be traced back to the time of independence when nation building required lots of local engineering talent. Pandit Nehru was known to be unhappy about the fact that India had to import foreign technology and hence he had commissioned the creation of the IITs. While Nehru's dream has come true (at least partially), a side effect has been the creation of a society with highly skewed and prejudiced view towards all other professions.

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But the realization that there are other career opportunities comes only when have that much exposure in life. In India the pressure on a student begins to mount up right from high school board examinations. A student doesn't have the time and exposure to explore the fields that he is interested in and what he wants to become in life.
This is even true for people who have cracked JEE (for people who dont know - it's an enterance test for getting into IITs). Remember the time when we all (I too am a graduate from IIT - IITK to be specific....graduated this year!) go for orientation and fill up the forms for choosing the branches on engineering. There is a set pattern - CSE, EE, ME etc. and harly 5% of the students dare to choose differently - again lack of exposure and thought process. And as you must also have had noticed that many students deserved to be in a different branch than the one they chose or were "forced" into!
After writing my high school exams I didnt even know what IITs were.....but I saw all my classmates (who were top rankers in school) join JEE coachings, I followed the same trend as lakhs of other students do them do. I don't think I ever asked myself the question whether it's the right decision of not.
Compare a student from a metropolitan like Delhi to one like Lucknow (from where I am). Both are cities but there is a huge difference in the way people think in these two places. When I was preparing for JEE (in Lucknow) I saw a huge number of JEE aspirants who dropped an year or more to prepare for JEE.....but the thinking of the students from Delhi were a lot different. For them one year meant a lot. They had a lot of alternate plans after getting out of school even after being unsuccessful in JEE.
So it is at the school level that the education needs to be given to encourage students to explore their inner selves to get to know whats the right path for them in life.

Roorkee Engg College and IIT Gauhati are the two additions to the earlier six. .So eight locations.

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Let's face it , there don't exist too many options in a country like India. Engineering, Medicine and MBA(most bright ppl who goto DU, go for this after their course). And I would blame the govt for this, they continue to harp on the success that IIT'ians and IIM'ites have had all over the world and in the process neglect other areas.

I myself didn't want to do engineering , as my entire family is into that side, but there weren't many options at that time. Now that I have completed my Engg, I am extremely interested in Journalism, arts and Media. I know ppl who have dropped 2-3 years to get into IIT.

Although the IIT's and IIM's are great institutes their we are too obsessed with them. The situation is very different in the US and Australia, and other countries , where the pressure is really less on students and they even take an year off after their 12th to figure it what they have to do.

Even though everyone seems to be wanting to become an engineer, there are still quite a lot going in to business etc. Nearly 2 lac are going to give the CAT this year and this no. keeps increasing every year. The numbers for medical also keep increasing. With a billion of us there are always large enough numbers in the vaguest of fields even if there is so much emphasis on engineering. However, if i was doin engineering rgt now, i would have a better chance of landing a job in U.S after graduation as compared to India.

In the past decade or so the number of colleges/universities offering engineering degrees has grown into hundreds. Bangalore, Pune, Manipal, etc. come to mind. Seems like "inflation" of education where value and quality of a engineering degree keeps dropping. However IITs have maintained their position and are known to have a fair admission process and produce quality graduates as recognized by employers and universities worldwide. This probably explains to some extent why we have 200,000 kids trying to get in.

But I agree that people in India do have a herd mentality and out of the box thinking is needed..

I am in unison with Gaurav on this. The minute you deviate from the 'Great American Dream' algorithm, you are ridiculed. And engineering happens to be the heart of it. To deviate you need courage, maturity and an out of the box though process, which most of us (atleast I) dont have at 16. However, if at every major intersection, we think whether the next step is right for us, we would be better off.

I think more of it is because of the higher chances of getting well paid jobs that the intelligent youth in India is taking IIT path. Another big reason is for science (esp. life scienes- molecular biology, genomics, proteomics), arts and media - India doesnt have the best hi-tech resources in the world. I myself had a bachelors in chemical engineering and was working in a biotech company, where i was facinated with the root level process and decided to go to sciences. But since I couldnt find good advance level resources in India - I did my masters in life sciences at Virginia tech in US. It takes a lot to renounce the hi-paid engineering position and plunge into basic sciences and not everybody in India can afford to go to foreign universities to get the advance level science degrees. IIT and IIMs are hence the popular options.

Hi,

I am looking for a good IIT coaching center for my son who is in Std X (ICSE), kindly suggest.

Regards
Prakash Kannan
98864 04297

I dont agree with u. I myself took commerce in plus2, arts in college, ended up doing an MBA frm IIMC (wanted to not forced to) and now work in an ad agency ... and STILL wondering what i want to do in life
:-)

still engineering from iit provides best beginning in comparision to other professinon.

Kindly provide me information of a Good IIT coaching for my son

what will be the cut off of iitjee2006 for sc candidates

i have given x boards this time.every person in my family refer of joining the iit coachings from right now.so kindly suggest me is it better to join iit coaching nnow or after xII CLASS?

Rashi that depends on if you can manage IIT coaching along with your regular school studies. If you feel you can take out enough time for devoting to IIT coaching after taking care of your school curriculum, then I would suggest taking coaching during your schooling and try to clear the exam in your first attempt.

Sir please send iitjee2006 solved paper

SIR I WANT TO KNOW THE CUTOFF OF IITJEE2006 & THE SOLVED PAPER OF THE SAME

WHAT IS THE BEST OPTION FOR COACHINGS IN DELHI. ACTUALLY I WANT TO KNOW ABOUT THE COACHINGS IN DELHI FOR THE PREPARATION OF IIT

pls send me the expected cutoff of iitjee2006 i belong to OBC community

there r a variety of choices availble if u cud wait and think what u want to do..but still a basic professional degree like engg. is a must .Even if u dont fare well elsewhere u still have an option where u can always go back to.and if engg.,then why not from the best.?

hi
right now i have given exams for the first year.i am an english hons. student from d.u.
but now i wanna pursue mba after that from a good institue like iim , isb etc.etc.
so i wanna know should i do it or no?shud i pursue sumthng in management or is it useless for me to do so......

I am currently studying in class 10 in Kolkata.Please suggest good coaching institutes in Kolkata for preparation for IIT-JEE after my class 10 board exams

please send me the expected cutoff of iitjee2006 i belong to general category

i hold an opinion that going to a coaching centre leads to only peer pressure like"which batch u are in?"(students who go there might understand what i am trying to say).An optimum way to prepare is by self -study and doing solved papers from these institutes at home. for clarifying doubts, ushoul be in contact with a person who either
has secured a seat in iit /just graduated from there.

i am a student of english hons 1st year and want to know that when will the results be declared..as i have to give an entrance exam in june so please let me know...waiting to hear from u.

please tell me good coaching for iit in pune.

i want to know the cutoff of iitjee2006 in genral catagory

hello,
my son is preparing for iitjee2008,
i would like to know the cutoff marks in 2006,and marks scored by 1st ranker,100 ranker and the last ranker.i hope that i would get the information immediately.
thankyou

Please let me have the contact address of Branch of Kota IIT Coaching Institue operating from Kolkata.

Regards

Subhash Sen

Im presently in kota and preparing 4 jee 2008 thru bansal coaching.I feel like dis coaching is best 4 serious iit aspirants.The main thing required is hard work and doing the given H.W in time.Bt here r many things wich can deviate ur mind bt u hav 2 concentrate only on studies.

Im presently in kota and preparing 4 jee 2008 thru bansal coaching.I feel like dis coaching is best 4 serious iit aspirants.The main thing required is hard work and doing the given H.W in time.Bt here r many things wich can deviate ur mind bt u hav 2 concentrate only on studies.

Im presently in kota and preparing 4 jee 2008 thru bansal coaching.I feel like dis coaching is best 4 serious iit aspirants.The main thing required is hard work and doing the given H.W in time.Bt here r many things wich can deviate ur mind bt u hav 2 concentrate only on studies.

Im presently in kota and preparing 4 jee 2008 thru bansal coaching.I feel like dis coaching is best 4 serious iit aspirants.The main thing required is hard work and doing the given H.W in time.Bt here r many things wich can deviate ur mind bt u hav 2 concentrate only on studies.

Im presently in kota and preparing 4 jee 2008 thru bansal coaching.I feel like dis coaching is best 4 serious iit aspirants.The main thing required is hard work and doing the given H.W in time.Bt here r many things wich can deviate ur mind bt u hav 2 concentrate only on studies.

Im presently in kota and preparing 4 jee 2008 thru bansal coaching.I feel like dis coaching is best 4 serious iit aspirants.The main thing required is hard work and doing the given H.W in time.Bt here r many things wich can deviate ur mind bt u hav 2 concentrate only on studies.

If u want ur child to give da best den send him to kota and let him join bansal coaching.Believe me if he had the hunger to win and work hard den bansal is dere to increase dis hunger more.Here he will get da right guidance and right study material and he hav 2 jst study wat is taught in class and he will definetely win da race.Im telling dis frm my experience as im also presently its student.

Dear IIT aspirant without passing BOARD examnitaion,How can u enter JEE IIT.For BOARD EXAMS u have to go to regular school. with schooling coaching is very harsh job. so u have to choose bogus school where they twenty thousand or more then that and they will fill up ur attendence without attending school daily. it at ur risk WHEN BOARD OFFCIALS RAID UR SCHOOL U MAY BE DEBARRED FROM THE BOARD EXAMS. IT IS AT UR RISK FOT JEE IIT U MAY LOOSE UR BOARD EXAMS

i am an aspirant of uget manipal.
kindly tell me the approx cutoff marks

i am an aspirant of iit engg.I am looking for a good IIT coaching center for my brother who is in twelthin oissa(ChSE), kindly send prospect to my address is manas ranjan parida s/o kedareswar parida at/po-master street, hinjilicut dist-ganjam,state orissa country-india,pin-761102 plz urgent

It seems in Manipal UGET they call upto 1800 ranks in first counselling but I too do not know link between marks & rank

It seems in Manipal UGET they call upto 1800 ranks in first counselling but I too do not know link between marks & rank

please tell me that is career point in kota is good for coaching of iit -jee examand sugest me other coaching centre at kota which are good.

Engineering have always been a reputed profession to covet.However,in todays scenario engg. has lost the lusture once it had and this is because of the gamut of engineering colleges in every nook and corner of india,even in the galli-mohalas.But on the other side of the coin,its easy for a carrier oriented person to earn its bread and butter very easily as there is comparitively less struggle to get a job when you have a vocatonal degree.But anyhow something must be done to maintain the class of engg.Grading must be given to colleges and must be taken into consideration when a student aspire for the job.Let us make things a bit more vulnerable.

from:
prateek bhatnagar
b-tech,information technology(III yr)
SRMS CET,Bareilly.

sir,i want jee2006 solved paper&cutoff
address-saicharan
80\11-112G15
abba

sir,i want jee2006 solved paper&cutoff
address-saicharan
80\11-112G15
abbas nagar
Kurnool-518002
Andhra pradesh

please tell me about medical coachings in delhi and the venues , where they located and fees of it.

sir i want to know cutoff marks for mbbs of manipal uget entarance exam
kindly send me that

sir, I want to know about IIT coachings in DELHI

sir, I want to know about IIT coachings in DELHI

i joined an iit coaching after class X. one year i was churned under the two syllabus,one of the school n the other of course. for one or other reasons i had to halt my preparations n now when i am in class XII i am not having any coaching by my side but only ncert books and other favourable books and few years old correspondence .Guys, if u r reading this ,pls help me. i want 2 give my first attempt as the best attempt.can i do it?? besides iit,i wanna opt for many other jee's
. my father wishes that i may do mba but thats another thing. is it ok/harmful/very harmful that i have dropped a year without preparations??? answer me.

I am in XI class and wanted to know the best centre foe iit coaching in north india?

I want to know d last year's cut off in manipal uget engineering?...i got 203/720..what r my chances?

i got 203/720 in manipal UGET 2007 (engineering)..what r my chances?..what was last yr's approx cut off?

WHAT SHOULD BE BETTER FOR COUNTRY""""""""""
A GRADE ENGINEER AND C GRADE HUMAN BEING
OR
C GRADE ENGINEER AND A GRADE HUMAN BEING

Sir i want to know about PMT coachings in
DELHI.

Sir,
My rank in the Manipal UGET-07 is 5370 (i scored 224/720). I wanted to know whether I have any chances of being called for counselling and getting admission in a good engineering branch. If yes, what exactly can I expect to get?
Please reply. I will be highly obliged.
Regards,
Karan Kapoor

Sir,
My rank in the Manipal UGET-07 is 5370 (i scored 224/720). I wanted to know whether I have any chances of being called for counselling and getting admission in a good engineering branch. If yes, what exactly can I expect to get?
Please reply. I will be highly obliged.
Regards,
Karan Kapoor

Sir,
My rank in the Manipal UGET-07 is 5370 (i scored 224/720). I wanted to know whether I have any chances of being called for counselling and getting admission in a good engineering branch. If yes, what exactly can I expect to get?
Please reply. I will be highly obliged.
Regards,
Karan Kapoor

I apologize for posting so many messages. There was some problem with my computer.

I would like to know good correspondence/online test series for IIT JEE in Bombay , Delhi and Kolkata.

Thanks

With regrads,

M padmaja

I would like to know good correspondence/online test series for IIT JEE in Bombay , Delhi and Kolkata.

Thanks

With regrads,

M padmaja

MY SON IN STUDING IN XI GET 91.6 MARKS AND GETTING COACHING FROM CHANDIGARH BUT IWANT TO ANOTHER TEST SERIES FOR HIM THROU ONLINE PLEASE GUIDE THE BEST ONE LINE COACHING AND ONLINE TEST SERIES.

THANKING YOU

hellow sir
i recently gave my +2(12th)exam and got 75% in it.
now i want to prepaire for iitjee 2008
so i want u to give me the name of some best intitutes in india who have 1 year preparation programe.
but make sure that the intitutes have a good back history

Dude, your blog entry is on the first page when somebody does a search on google. Thats why the online marketing people from Bansal classes are filling up your comments.
You are a wanted property in the IITJEE coaching scene simply because of this entry.
I also landed up while searching for various googled pages on IIT coaching.

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hello sir,

i m preparing for iitjee2008.actualy
nobody is sure here about the new pattern of
iitjee2008.
kindly tell me about the new
pattern of iitjee2008 . if the pattern is not changed then please tell me.


Thanks

With regards

APOORV KARKARE

i m shipra sharma.an medical aspirant.i wnt to know about courses and fee structure of best medical coaching in delhi.plz inform me as soon as possible

Hi,
My brother wil be appearing for 10th this year and he wants to opt engineering as a career option. CAn ypu please help me looking for a good coaching intitute for him in Delhi.

thanks
Payal

i cant decide whether to join any iit coaching or not.some of my friends tell me not to join any, as this causes alot of extra stress. but some say that it would improve your knowledge alot. please help me in this . if i should then where would be the best. n if not what would be better for me.

Please tell me about few good coaching centers at Delhi for preparation of engineering.

i want to be an iitian what so less time has left

how many students appear in the manipal institute of technology exams every year.......

how many students appear in the manipal institute of technology exams every year.......

how many students appear in the manipal institute of technology exams every year.......

I would like to know the name of IIT coaching centers in Kota of India which are the best & pl mention the address.

Please send me Fee structure detail for Bansal Classes Kota. for various streem

Thanks

hello friends,
i m going to tell you about kota institutes.
I STUDIED IN KOTA FOR 2 YEARS IN NARAYANA INSTITUTE.
WELL I WANT TO SAY THAT ALL THE INSTITUTES ARE SAME. INDIVIDUALS R BETTER THAN INTITUTES. BECAUSE YOU GET YOUR TYPE OF TEACHER, BUT IN INSTITUTES THERE ARE SOME TEACHERS WHICH R NOT GOOD BUT U HAVE TO SPEND 1 HOUR IN THERE CLASSROOM.
ALL INST. PROMISE VERY BIG THINGS BUT THE REALITY IS DIFFRENT.
TOP INSTITUTE IN KOTA IS BANSAL AND RAO IIT ACADEMY.

sir i want to know ,,what should i do to clear entrance exam for bansals coaching classes in kota....
should i take another coaching i.e garg classes to pass in entrance exam,,or i should juc\st believe in myself and give the exam,,,,im an average student...plz guide me,,,

sir i want to know ,,what should i do to clear entrance exam for bansals coaching classes in kota....
should i take another coaching i.e garg classes to pass in entrance exam,,or i should juc\st believe in myself and give the exam,,,,im an average student...plz guide me,,,

Sir I am not selected in bansal classes entrance exam in bull's eye course so what should I do to pass the entrnce test of bansal of achme cource which is shedule on 1,june,2008

I would like to know the name of IIT coaching centers in Kota of India which are the best & pl mention the address.

hello sir,can you please mail me the solved paper of iitjee-2008
thank you!

Sir, I have studied in Bansal for two years .The first year teachers were good,but in the second year they increased the students and new teachers were appointed but they were not as good as the old teachers ,then Mr Bansal had a fight with two of his top teachers Mr. M C Chouhan and Mr Nitin Vijay. Mr Bansal used abusive language with Mr Nitin Vijay and Mr vijay left the institute to start an individual coaching of his own.This year Mr Bansal has 410 batches in Class 12 with around 90 students in each batch.Last year the total no of students were around 12000.Students of lower batches give up almost totally.In my hostel there was a student named Durlabh Katre who was in D-7,the last batch he resorted to smoking,drinking and spending nights in cyber cafes.His parents came to know and took him back home.Three months later Igot from Durlabh's friend that frustrated by life he committed suicide.

Sir, I have studied in Bansal for two years .The first year teachers were good,but in the second year they increased the students and new teachers were appointed but they were not as good as the old teachers ,then Mr Bansal had a fight with two of his top teachers Mr. M C Chouhan and Mr Nitin Vijay. Mr Bansal used abusive language with Mr Nitin Vijay and Mr vijay left the institute to start an individual coaching of his own.This year Mr Bansal has 410 batches in Class 12 with around 90 students in each batch.Last year the total no of students were around 12000.Students of lower batches give up almost totally.In my hostel there was a student named Durlabh Katre who was in D-7,the last batch he resorted to smoking,drinking and spending nights in cyber cafes.His parents came to know and took him back home.Three months later Igot from Durlabh's friend that frustrated by life he committed suicide.

Sir, I have studied in Bansal for two years .The first year teachers were good,but in the second year they increased the students and new teachers were appointed but they were not as good as the old teachers ,then Mr Bansal had a fight with two of his top teachers Mr. M C Chouhan and Mr Nitin Vijay. Mr Bansal used abusive language with Mr Nitin Vijay and Mr vijay left the institute to start an individual coaching of his own.This year Mr Bansal has 410 batches in Class 12 with around 90 students in each batch.Last year the total no of students were around 12000.Students of lower batches give up almost totally.In my hostel there was a student named Durlabh Katre who was in D-7,the last batch,he resorted to smoking,drinking and spending nights in cyber cafes.His parents came to know and took him back home.Three months later I got a call from Durlabh's friend that frustrated by life he committed suicide.

I have been in kota for two years in bansal

hello sir i want to know that from where i shall take coachings for the entrance exam of acme course in bansal classes. i also wantto know the contact no. of garg classes that is in kota.please mail me

hello sir i am little bit confused that which stream shall i choose as my carreer ......although i am preparing for entrance test in bansal classes but i am not able to clear my confusion......so please tell me that what shall i do???????

can u plzz tell me dis years manipal UGET cutoff

sir ,
i got 150 in manipal UGET2008
CAN U TELL ME WATS THE CUTOFF AND CAN I GET A SEAT THERE ???IF SO IN ECE OR CSE

sir ,
i got 142 in manipal UGET2008
CAN U TELL ME WATS THE CUTOFF ?

i got 113 in manipal uget 2008.can i get admission and which branch can be expected?

i got 103 out of 240 in manipal uget what r my chances

sir, i want to know the syllabus of cusat-2008

My rank in UGET(Manipal) 2008 is 7175.What are my chances of getting admission and what branch I can expect ?

i have secured the 14429th rank in manipal uget 2008 can i be called there for counselling?

respected sir,
tomorrow is my resonance entrance exam in delhi but i dont know what is the adress of entrance exam centre.

sir i m looking for good entrance clearing institute in new delhi

sir,
please tell me the entire fee structure of bansal classes.

sir,
please tell me the entire fee structure of bansal classes.

sir,
please tell me the entire fee structure of bansal classes.

sir i am preparing for bulls eye test in bansal due on 5 april . i am confused regarding preperation for it . please help

Hi folks..!
I m a tenth grade stud..from gurgaon. I am going to B.Classes [bull's eye] Kota in April..

Well I don't wanna go to IITs.but still i want no no no i'll score a top -10 rank in iitjee paper....I'll go MASSACHUSETTS INSTITUTE OF TECHNOLOGY USA(no.1 for engineering on the Globe for studying).


I won't join engineering type of job...rather i'll Clear IAS exam n join administrative services.!!

N then who knows I may join politics..!

I took this decision cuz I have noted our youth goin crazy Over becumin an engineer and then goin abroad for earning quick n heavy bucks...!

but there are few who desire to be the part of govt...and run THE COUNTRY..!!

nd then these illiterate politicians [ I m not saying all r but most of them r] run the country in the way they want..!

Well i think my decision to help the country run in a better way is excellent ..!!
WHat's ur say???COmments welcome on mitianguy@hotmail.com
ANd if ur still reading...
Then i would say thanx for reading this long comment.!!

Hi folks..!
I m a tenth grade stud..from gurgaon. I am going to B.Classes [bull's eye] Kota in April..

Well I don't wanna go to IITs.but still i want no no no i'll score a top -10 rank in iitjee paper....I'll go MASSACHUSETTS INSTITUTE OF TECHNOLOGY USA(no.1 for engineering on the Globe for studying).


I won't join engineering type of job...rather i'll Clear IAS exam n join administrative services.!!

N then who knows I may join politics..!

I took this decision cuz I have noted our youth goin crazy Over becumin an engineer and then goin abroad for earning quick n heavy bucks...!

but there are few who desire to be the part of govt...and run THE COUNTRY..!!

nd then these illiterate politicians [ I m not saying all r but most of them r] run the country in the way they want..!

Well i think my decision to help the country run in a better way is excellent ..!!
WHat's ur say???COmments welcome on mitianguy@hotmail.com
ANd if ur still reading...
Then i would say thanx for reading this long comment.!!

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